by David Matterall in
Talking in Stations
Talking in Stations
PL’s Hedliner on the Chaos Era

Pandemic Legion’s leader, Hedliner, tells us what he thinks about the EVE Vegas, Chaos Era, and how CCP is developing the game lately. We explore the Vanquisher killed this week, the situation in Detorid, the CSM summit, and the Peak Concurrent-players (PCU) statistics that show how many EVE players are online.


  • Hedliner (Sniggerdly [Pandemic Legion])

TIS Crew

  • Carneros (Ancient Hittite Corporation [The Bastion])
  • Elise Randolph (Habitual Euthanasia [Pandemic Legion])
  • Matterall (Destructive Influence [Northern Coalition.])




  1. Loggerhead down
  2. The Mighty Bean evicted from a wormhole J165940
  3. The Imperium pulled together a bunch of research on EVE peak concurrency trends (presumably for CSM use at summit) and took an official position against the age of Chaos. More on CSM later. More on EVE population trends later as well.
  4. 2020 news: CCP moves EVE Vegas to EVE San Diego (great weather, less flavor, diet verson)


Legacy versus Winter Conflict

  1. Reaction to the Vanquisher loss
    • 2 vanqs + tiamat (AT16 ship) lost within a month by the same pilot
  2. Winter allowed the TEST Keepstar to online in QLPX-J in Detorid — why?
    • Couldn’t secure the cyno jammers according to the FRT ping — do you buy that?
    • Is it harder to work with Fraternity in the absence of Noraus?
  3. When moving a supercapital fleet from the north down to the conflict theater, do you weigh the difficulty of the upcoming cyno changes?
  4. Does that influence your thinking/planning? Or your minimum threshold for seriousness before you will move forces?
  5. Have you caught yourself thinking “we should go there while we still can use normal cynos”?

2019 Fall CSM Summit, Reykjavik, Iceland

  1. Who is attending?
  2. How did they prepare?
    • Jin’taan interviews might be good references for this
  3. What to expect?
  4. What does it mean?
  5. Eve Portal mention?

Kenshin. Moves to Initiative Mercenaries

  1. What does this mean? Why?
  2. Are the doxxer guys gone?
  3. Did their leader lose a Nyx to a British accented female player?

PCU Dropping

  1. MMORPG competitive landscape – WoW Classic Launch
  2. Impressive numbers in USTZ
  3. Hitting as a strong option right when content is scare in EVE USTZ
  4. Rare open discussing of organizing to play another MMO
  5. PLEX

“Something You Might Not Know”

  1. Matterall – EVE players used to look down on WOW players. “Go back to WOW.” was a common insult years ago. Now many have gone back to WOW Classic.
  2. Carneros – Things you can and cannot do in Incursion systems.
  3. Elise – Tech 3 Destroyer warp trick
  4. Hedliner – Jump Navigation Window for capital pilots. Find it under Windows keybinds.

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